Average rating: 5 stars Franklin Fartington 8/22/17 DC These are, for me, top five all time shoes I've skated. A little snug at first but once I broke the in they felt great. A skated them for a couple months and even after I blew out the top layer of suede the under layers would not quit. Never became a sock ripper. The mid also protects that ankle nob a little bit, which eases the emotional tension on flippies. I've had two pair so far, will buy again.