Average rating: 4.73 stars BetaSequencer 10/12/18 Michigan Great Shoes, especially if you like them on the thin side. The vertical grooves and rubber toe cap provide extra life if you do a lot of flip tricks. I typically just do straight airs, 180’s, and simple grinds on rails and boxes, and found the place where the suede gets worn through to be 1-2 inches back from where the rubber stops and between the third and fourth lace eyelet from the top. Right away, I thought the tongues were too thin, but the real issue is the insole is too thin. It got really compressed and my foot was riding on the waffle texture of the soul. The insoles are not made to come out. Another issue I came across is the sewn in rubber/plastic that gives the heel shape got really brittle when the temperatures approached freezing and I continued to skate. On the back foot shoe, that plastic broke apart and ripped through on the inside, so I pulled out the pieces from the inside tear. The shoe did not have enough support after that and it was so stretched in that back heel part that it caused my heel to be offset towards the inside. When my foot slipped off the tail on a missed air landing, it shifted in the shoe in that exact area and my heel got super bruised. If you get these, I recommend adding gel insoles or those cheaper ones that you cut to fit right after you break them in a little, and put them away when the frost nears. They are wide, so don’t follow the pattern if you trim insoles; just trim off from the back heel.